
This podcast episode takes listeners on a complete journey through the digestive system, from the very first thought of food to elimination. Hosts Nicole and Steve explain the physiology of digestion, common symptoms of digestive dysfunction, and practical solutions anyone can implement at home to improve their gut health.
Most people assume digestion starts in the mouth, but Nicole reveals it actually begins much earlier than that - with a thought. When you start thinking about food or see a meal, your digestive juices begin flowing and you start to salivate.
"It actually starts with a thought. So if you start to think about food, then your digestive juices start to flow, and then if you see the meal, then you start to salivate. So that's actually the beginning of digestion before you've even put it in your mouth."
This concept connects to the famous Pavlov's dogs experiment, where dogs were trained to salivate at the sound of a bell because they associated it with feeding time. The same principle applies to humans - if you get hungry at the same time every day, your body is priming itself to digest food it expects to receive.
Steve even points out that cooking could be considered part of the digestive process, referencing how humans discovered fire about 1.7 million years ago. Cooking meat allowed early humans to extract more nutrients, which contributed to the development of larger brains.
Once food enters the mouth, the digestive process kicks into high gear. The mouth produces:
Interestingly, the mouth does not produce proteases (protein-digesting enzymes) - that happens later in the stomach.
The process of mastication (chewing) creates something called a bolus - a ball of chewed food mixed with saliva. This bolus is then swallowed and travels down the esophagus through a wave-like motion called peristalsis.
"You could therefore eat upside down technically... your body will still push it through."
The esophagus has two sphincters - an upper and lower esophageal sphincter - that control the movement of food and become important when discussing issues like reflux later.
The stomach is where the "real" digestive action begins. It contains hydrochloric acid - the same acid used to balance pool pH! This acid serves two critical functions:
The stomach lining contains parietal cells that secrete hydrochloric acid only when needed during digestion - otherwise, it would burn through the stomach lining constantly.
The process works like this:
The stomach also produces mucus to protect its lining from the harsh acids and enzymes churning around inside. The stomach muscles contract every 20 seconds to physically move and mix the food.
Once sufficiently broken down, the food becomes chyme (pronounced either "kime" or "chime") and moves into the small intestine - but only when it's liquefied enough.
Despite its name, the small intestine is actually much longer than the large intestine - about 9 meters! It consists of three parts:
This is where "all the good stuff happens," but also where "a lot of bad stuff can happen" if things go sideways.
In the duodenum:
Bile is crucial and multifunctional - it helps emulsify fats AND acts as an antimicrobial agent. Nicole emphasizes that poor bile production or flow is extremely common.
"Bile has so many functions in the body and it's very, very common to have low bile acid production, low bile flow, sluggish bile."
The small intestine is lined with tiny finger-like projections called villi, which have even smaller microvilli on them. This dramatically increases the surface area for maximum nutrient absorption. The brush border of these villi releases additional enzymes to complete protein breakdown.
People with celiac disease experience damage to these villi when consuming gluten, which flattens them out and leads to malnutrition.
After passing through the ileocecal valve, chyme enters the large intestine, which consists of:
This is where the bulk of our microbiome lives. The large intestine:
The stool forms in the rectum and waits there until an appropriate time for elimination.
Nicole explains the anatomical benefits of squatting versus sitting on a toilet. The puborectalis muscle pinches off the rectum when standing or sitting to prevent accidents. When squatting, this muscle fully relaxes, allowing for complete evacuation.
"If you're having trouble with full evacuation, give the Squatty Potty a go."
A Squatty Potty or simple stool that elevates your feet brings you closer to a natural squatting position, which is why toddlers instinctively squat to poop.
Contrary to popular belief, most people experiencing heartburn actually have LOW stomach acid, not high. When there's insufficient acid:
"Most of the time it's low stomach acid that's doing it... the food doesn't really break down very well and it can sit there and that's why you get that feeling - I feel really like just that fullness, my food's just sitting in my stomach."
Stress is the number one factor affecting digestive function. Everyone experiences stress differently, and it's all relative to their situation.
"Everyone's stress is relative to what's going on in their lives, so you can never say to one person 'oh what are you worried about' because it's relative to their thing."
When stressed, people often:
The migrating motor complex is a series of electrical waves that sweep through the GI tract to clear out bacteria and debris. It only activates 3-4 hours after eating, so people who eat every 2-3 hours never give it a chance to work.
"If you fast, you can actually poop more... because you're giving your body that time to activate that migrating motor complex to sweep everything through."
Proton Pump Inhibitors (PPIs) like Nexium are among the most commonly prescribed medications and can cause serious problems:
"Every time I try to come off them I just get really, my acid gets worse, so they just get back on them and it's just a continual cycle."
NSAIDs (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs):
Antibiotics:
Chronic throat clearing - Can indicate silent reflux where you don't feel burning but acid is still coming up
"Have you ever had someone that goes 'I've just got to clear my throat, I've got a bit of phlegm in the back of my throat' - frog in the back of your throat - and it's chronic?"
"You should always check your poo, people. You should check your poo."
Poor digestion directly impacts thyroid function because bile is needed to activate an enzyme that converts T4 to T3. If you have thyroid issues, there's likely gut problems too.
These occur when bacteria that should be in the large intestine migrate to the small intestine, often due to poor bile flow, low stomach acid, or a faulty ileocecal valve.
This stomach bacterium affects about a third to half of Australians. New research suggests even low levels should be eradicated because:
Blood tests can reveal digestive issues:
Microbiome mapping can show:
Nicole shares a simple (though not scientifically validated) home test:
Take apple cider vinegar and baking soda together. The acid-alkaline reaction produces gas.
Manage your stress - This is the biggest factor
Eat in a relaxed environment
Chew your food thoroughly - Break it down properly in the mouth
Don't drink with meals - Drink up to 20 minutes before and wait an hour after
Apple cider vinegar - Take a small amount in water about 10 minutes before meals to boost stomach acid
"Try the things that we said you can try at home with the relaxation and the breathing and maybe the apple cider vinegar and chew your food."
For bile production and flow (choleretics and cholagogues):
Other digestive herbs:
Heel drops for hiatal hernia:
This can help pull the stomach back down if it's pushing through the lower esophageal sphincter.
Abdominal massage:
Address back issues:
The digestive system is remarkably complex, spanning about 32 feet from mouth to anus, with countless opportunities for things to go wrong. The key takeaway is that many symptoms people consider "normal" - bloating, heartburn, constipation - are actually signs of digestive dysfunction that should be addressed before they develop into chronic conditions.
"If you are having problems and you've tried the things we said you can try at home... if that doesn't work and you are still having issues, it's a good idea to see someone. I think naturopaths do very well with digestion - that's our area where we shine."
The good news is that many solutions are simple and can be implemented immediately: managing stress, eating mindfully, chewing thoroughly, and avoiding drinking water with meals. For more persistent issues, herbs, supplements, and professional guidance can help restore optimal digestive function before problems spiral into more serious conditions.
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